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polspan
7/15/2008 5:13:01 PM
Posts: 6
Hi,

I'm thinking to mate blue roan girl with black male and just wondering what I should expect (colour wise). Did anyone have experience with doing something like this? Any feedbacks are welcome.
Domena
7/16/2008 12:27:12 PM
Posts: 25
I assume you are talking ENGLISH Cocker Spaniels, right?

The ECSCA has excellent information on their website including references to websites on coat color inheritance. http://www.ecsca.org/ecscoat.html

My understanding is that black is dominant, and unless the black carries roan, you will have all black.




Andrea
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AKAussieLover
7/16/2008 1:20:49 PM
Posts: 75
Shouldn't you know this already if you're going into breeding? I'm not a cocker owner, but I assume that something so basic would have been learned way before a consideration of breeding is going to take place.

If you don't know this yet, do you know about any health issues, lines of the parents, testing that needs to be done beforehand, ect? Is your bitch of conformation standard, even? I think you need to do a LOT more research before mating 2 dogs based on their colors.
Domena
7/16/2008 7:15:38 PM
Posts: 25
I agree with you that these are things that someone who is breeding dogs should know, but don't assume that genetics of coat color is "basic". Especially when you get into not only color but pattern (roan).

Since my original response I did contact a friend who is an ECS breeder and, with her permission, here is her response.

"In order for them to carry for the open mark, or roan gene they would have to have it in the pedigree or be a "hybrid" which is a combination of solid colours and parti-colours.

It would depend on what they each carried for. If both carried "red/orange" they could have solid reds along with blacks. If the Black carried for roan also, you could have blue roan, orange roan, reds, or blacks.

Or if the Black carried for open marked, and the blue roan carried for open marked, you could have open marked, roans, or solids.

If they each carried for tan points, you could have that in addition to the mix, and if they both carried for liver, you could have solid liver or liver roans."

Basic? NOT! LOLOL!!






Andrea
Kivalina Siberian Huskies and
Polish Lowland Sheepdogs
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polspan
7/16/2008 7:46:00 PM
Posts: 6
Yes know most of it, to be registered breeder in Australia you need to take a very comprehensive exam. I newer mate this combination before therefore my question. Just to let you know Iím not only breeder but I sow cockers as well.
polspan
7/16/2008 7:46:41 PM
Posts: 6
Yes is it English, and thanks for the webside.
AKAussieLover
7/17/2008 9:22:38 AM
Posts: 75
Thanks for the clarification. I've been reading a lot about aussie breeding in the last couple of years and the aussie coloring isn't nearly as complicated. Aussies don't have roan coloring though, so I've only had to concern myself with the differences in merles, solids, and dominant genes. The cocker is a whole nother complicated breed when it comes to coloring, that's for sure!
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